Josef in Seattle Hi Elke. I'm new to Seattle as of October 2015 and I'm assuming the Coast Range of Oregon means you live a certain distance (?) from the beaches of Oregon? Welcome to the group. Have you read a copy of Michael Tellingers, Contributionism?

Elkini Yes, we are about 40 minutes from the coast. no i have not read it, but i did enjoy watching the hidden origins and ubunto workshops on gaia.com - i lived in seattle for 10 years and the majority of my Tribe is there - it is a great place!

Elkini *ubuntu

Josef in Seattle Elke, is your area you live in stay warmer year round? I'm kinda liking Seattle as it only dropped down to freezing just a couple of times over the winter. I guess it's more like a Mediterranean climate here. I like that fact because it's a place where you can continue to grow cole crops over the winters. BTW, I'd really suggest getting a copy of his book and reading it. Michael Tellinger kinda makes it required reading.