Status #1080

As the developer of this website, I have a question [...]


Eastbourne, East Sussex
via The Full Circle Project
As the developer of this website, I have a question for you the users... As the site grows we are bound to start getting "trolls" and other users attempting to disrupt things. How should we deal with this? If we start banning users and removing unhelpful posts and comments we get accused of censorship, but at the same time we can't leave the trolls (or other disruptive users) to do their thing without taking some kind of action. I'm thinking a system where users can report a comment or post as "unhelpful/irrelevant" and if a post or comment receives a certain number of such reports it is removed, and if a user repeatedly receives such reports on their posts they are eventually banned? But does this open things up to a group of users (possibly trolls themselves) abusing this reporting system to have genuine content removed? Maybe only users who have gained a certain "reputation" on the site are given the privilege to remove trolling comments? Ideas please!
one under god [on strike/on point]
its a good idea but not a button ..all complauint must be made at topic..face the accuser..or be revealed..trolls are good at private campains..two or three contact the mod..and suddenly im banned yet again,..,reply +complain at the topic..i would forbid any all private communication or publish all votes circles demand openness secret conversation or secret complaint..one guy working can shut up any disagreement..thats censure if you cant refute the point don't play the man..address the problem..baning does what exactly?..they DESERVE RIGHT OF REPLY
Tuesday 4 August 2015, 23:51:43
one under god [on strike/on point]
circles sit until the problem is resolved via all remaining in the circle agreeing..its a system that works..all problems solved by consensus..talk till the topic expires its then deleted or arcjhived..say after 7 days
Tuesday 4 August 2015, 23:55:52
Mat Dowle
I agree any kind of censorship should be avoided and it is better to refute/discuss the matter. My only concern is the drain on time that continuously interacting with and responding to trolls can take. I have wasted many hours in the past interacting with trolls and I think often their primary objective is simply to drain us of time and energy. Sometime better not to engage with them?
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 00:07:18
one under god [on strike/on point]
yes its best to ignore the trolls..[the real life talking circles have a thing called the talking stick..the holder of that stick has the right to be heard..as long as it takes..if people want to waste their free speech talking about rubbish..its revealed to all..becomes apparent to all..i think a simple guidance..if it don't make sense ignore it..if its wrong correct it..if you think its a troll ignore it or point it out but be nice aboiut it many are simply talkative ..or not used to being taken seriously..[sadly I hear it often on talk back radio..not allowing people to find their own expesssions means..is a thing we can avoid..and in time untilise..but till then let god judge ..or the crowd..the mods time is too valuable to become a policeman..we don't need cops in circles because we are here for a reason..we only reveal the reason over time..its not for us to judge
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 03:15:24
one under god [on strike/on point]
the thing is mat..at the moment the one main page is all over the place..[in time we will have all the trolls on the same page..where they can beccalled to a special circle to explain all their posts on one page..[or whatever]..but I recall a comment you made re bees eventually having their own circular page..and that seems sound..much like in a computer we can move files from documents to where ever one day we might be able to do the same thing..but for now we are all on one page..and exch post has its own page..[that seems to be capable of infinite expantions..[so one day 'the main page'..wuill be just topic headings ..indicating the circle topic..and people go to that page to learn teach or whatever..on them special pages..the atendeees will say no this might be better in the troll circle..or the beh keepers circle..but that's for a latter time..for now lets try to keep the spirit of fee speech like it sounds..free to speak..not insult demean..these will in time have their own locations..but for now its a family circle..li
ke the entry to the real life circles that begin with the words welcome home.
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 03:26:17
Grimace
i think what you should do is put in different categories of interests, like you have suggested, maybe a have a recent topics list where the majority of people have been discussing the same or similar topic - so you can just jump into discussion rather then scrolling down the page to find posts, a like and or dislike button could be helpful to see if people are interested in what has been posted, pictures would be helpful to post so we can share designs and visuals etc . a delete post and edit button to change what has been written, and i know this is not FB but users generally have idea how to use FB if its similar people wont have learn it slowly
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 07:00:50
Amanda
Well I've been wondering too because some people post copious amounts of rather confusing fare- note to One God...- and it is obviously off putting to some, as I've noticed that other peoples posting drops off, but does that mean they're trolls? Maybe they need this site, and maybe there are some who benefit from what to me seems like ranting. It doesn't feel right to ban people and likes and dislikes are so non-informative and frankly juvenile. I wouldn't mind being able to block those folk that I might find uninteresting, that way their posts won't "pig-up" this platform, that I have otherwise found to be amazing. Thanks again for your continued wonderful
work!
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 10:36:50
Mat Dowle
Amanda, I think you have a good solution (similar to my own conclusions) - we need a "don't show me content from this user" facility so if a particular user is posting confusing/irrelevant/trolling comments, you can opt out of seeing their contributions. That way, if there is a blatant troll, everyone will just choose to hide contributions from that user and they will be wasting their time posting because no one will see their contributions. Ignore the trolls and they will go away!
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 10:44:08
Lee
Quite simply, if people are generally offensive or their comments are not conducive or in tune with this website or forum, give them fair warning and if they continue to be confrontational and disruptive ask to leave. Using common sense and fair judgement that should be the simplest solution.
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 11:34:02
Grimace
the like dislike thing is basically ''this interests me or does not interest me'', it does not necessarily have to be called like dislike it's more like '' this topic interests me show me more like this or this topic does not interest me show me less or none of this topic'', you know what i mean? just an idea just trying help ay :/
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 12:31:26
Amanda

I didn't mean to sound snitty about your suggestion but only realized how it sounded after I hit enter..., I resonate with this site and hope it can keep the positive, loving connecting interaction that drew me here.
Wednesday 5 August 2015, 17:21:17
Feral
We are all leaders here. If someone's heart is not in contributing useful posts we should all have the
power to "unsee" what those people express. If people want to "see" those posts again should there be a reset button?

This is indeed an important topic that needs diverse input. I myself have been asking a similar question about when to draw the line in how inclusive I am with others. I can say that it is case by case in reality. Some people will not drink. Others will attack you for seeing water.
I hold gratitude for this outlet of expression.
Thursday 6 August 2015, 10:49:21
Thursday 6 August 2015, 10:50:00
Feral
We are all leaders here. If someone's heart is not in contributing useful posts we should all have the power to "unsee" what those people express. If people want to "see" those posts again should there be a reset button?

This is indeed an important topic that needs diverse input. I myself have been asking a similar question about when to draw the line in how inclusive I am with others. I can say that it is case by case in reality. Some people will not drink. Others will attack you for seeing water.
I hold gratitude for this outlet of expression.
Thursday 6 August 2015, 10:52:40
Thursday 6 August 2015, 10:53:03
Feral
Excuse my postings above, my opetating system is getting hacked, along with several other poeple's. Jade Helm is swinging into effect.
Friday 7 August 2015, 01:39:53
[deleted user]
Having read the above comments then Amanda makes sense to me. I've made my point on the new age religionists but i would never block any of them as free speech is essential. I'm sure people don't like some of my posts but to block me is just fragmenting the circle. All views are equally important even if we don't agree with a view. If you have to block then you are eventually going to form a clique and the system wins again.... Is someone who constantly posts about Linux a troll? Doug, please stand up.....
Wednesday 9 September 2015, 21:57:55
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